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    Overstaying in Europe (not in the UK)

    Dear Raju Dai,

    Your contribution to this forum is very much appreciated. I have been passive reader for some time now. I thought I might as well ask you some question now. May be Arjun can help as well.

    I am on 6 month Visit visa to UK. I have also got 1 month Belgium (Schagen Visa). My question is Will UK home office share the Biometric fingerprint detail with rest of Europe. I have given fingerprints while applying for UK visa, this was not needed for Belgium visa. Now I am planning to go to Belgium and possibly overstay than one month or probably apply for Asylum. If I do, will they (Belgium authority) be able to find my corrct detail through my fingerprint which is stored in British Embassy perhaps they are on UK Border Agency's database too.

    Please shed some light on me on this regard.

    Many Thanks

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    Re: Overstaying in Europe (not in the UK)

    Illegal subjects are not discussed here and I do not think you will get any advice from anyone else, not from me atleast. Had you been in genuine need of protection, you would not worry about your details as you are required to give accurate details and you are talking about concealing your identity and trying to obtain benefit by deception which is illegal.I believe Raju Ji agrees on this.

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    Well said Arjun JI, smart ar***, I agree with you all the way, but my question was more straight forward then what you've answered. I am not asking you to help me stay illegal and neither asked you what are the procedure. My question was, if the fingerprint data get shared beween the EU countries. All you had to answer was " Yes", "No", or "do not discuss such topic". And don't forget Solicitor will still help the criminals knowing they are in wrong. If all solicitor only help genuine cases as you are saying then most of the solicitors will be out of business at no time (especially the immigration lawers).

    Admin should have removed my post if it was not appropriate before any smart (unqualified) person opens their big mouth in a nasty way. I would have appreciated if it had came from Raju Dai.

    Peace.....




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    Re: Overstaying in Europe (not in the UK)

    yes, Arjunji seems more smart in his reply, na machinne ping ko saya jhadka bhaneko yehi hola, I hope Mr Thapa will reply for hijoajabholi nake ko nakkali id wala sathi :-*

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    Re: Overstaying in Europe (not in the UK)

    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    Hahhaha.....u guys are hilarious....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hijoaajabholi
    Well said Arjun JI, smart ar***, I agree with you all the way, but my question was more straight forward then what you've answered. I am not asking you to help me stay illegal and neither asked you what are the procedure. My question was, if the fingerprint data get shared beween the EU countries. All you had to answer was " Yes", "No", or "do not discuss such topic". And don't forget Solicitor will still help the criminals knowing they are in wrong. If all solicitor only help genuine cases as you are saying then most of the solicitors will be out of business at no time (especially the immigration lawers).

    Admin should have removed my post if it was not appropriate before any smart (unqualified) person opens their big mouth in a nasty way. I would have appreciated if it had came from Raju Dai.

    Peace.....
    Thanks for the the brand AR*****. You could have simply said ARSEHOLE, and i would not know who said as you do not have real name in your ID or even you had your real name in the id, I would not be able to do anything. Had your question required simple yes or no then you would have gotten the simple answer NO. I still standby with my answer and would expect impartial comments from forum users who have little bit of sense rather than just laughing and saying I was being smart

    Regards


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    Re: Overstaying in Europe (not in the UK)

    Dear All
    Let us learn to show our respect to others. This forum is specially designed to share our views and ideas to others so that they can benefit from it. The EC Treaty right provides freedom of movement of persons which means right of Union citizens and their family members to move and reside freely within the territory of the Member States. The Union has adopted a Directive on the right of citizens of the Union to move and reside freely within the Member States, which brings together the piecemeal measures found in the complex body of legislation that has governed this matter to date. The new measures are designed, among other things, to encourage Union citizens to exercise their right to move and reside freely within Member States, to cut back administrative formalities to the bare essentials, to provide a better definition of the status of family members and to limit the scope for refusing entry or terminating the right of residence.
    As you are being an overseas national, the EC has access to share the biometric fingerprint. Your biometric was already taken while you processed your application to the UK. You have stated that you intend to apply for asylum. If you have well founded fear of persecution from authorities in your country of origin, then you can seek asylum claim under the 1951 United Nations Convention Relating to the Status of Refugees. To be recognised as a refugee, you must have left your country and be unable to go back because you have a well-founded fear of persecution.

    The member states of European Union adheres the European Convention on Human Rights, which prevents them sending someone to a country where there is a real risk they will be exposed to torture, or inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment. I strongly advise you take advise from immigration solicitor before you apply for asylum whether or not you qualify for refugee.

    The Belgium authority will find out your details from biometric. You cannot conceal the facts and identity.

    I believe this clarifies the matter to you.
    Raju Thapa
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    Thank you Raju dai, much appreciated as usual.

    PS: How do we know all names used on this forum are real?????????? and do we have to use real name?????????

    Nabin Bhandari is my real name if that ia really needed.

    Peace

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    Re: Overstaying in Europe (not in the UK)

    Dear Nabin bhai
    I recommend to everyone to use real id. I do not any one using abusive, humiliating and intimidating to others to damage the reputation and dignity as we have to show respect to others. As I have seen Arjunji has contributed his time with all his effort, and it is not right way to insult him.

    As a registered with professional body, I am not able to give any advise which is conflict of interest to the state. Thanks again to disclose your id. Nabin bhai. If some solicitors advise the client to do wrong thing, it is misleading and will lose the license due to professional misconduct. If this is the case, you can report the matter to Solicitors Regulation Authority if you are not happy with services.

    Let us make this forum more effective.

    Many Thanks
    Raju Thapa
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    Re: Overstaying in Europe (not in the UK)

    Thanks Rajuji

    But I still standby with my answers. I do not and will never hurt anyone personally but the facts are facts and you can not change it regardless of what. I do not care and let me be bold with it again that I do not care those brats who have no sense what to say.

    Regards

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